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Dimitri A. Christakis, Frederick J. Zimmerman, David L. DiGiuseppe, and Carolyn A. McCarty
- Early Television Exposure and Subsequent Attentional Problems in Children
Pediatrics 2004; 113: 708-713
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Causal or Casual ?
- Andrew gallagher
(2 April 2004)
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Fatal Design Flaw: Self-Selection
- Gordon E. Finley
(6 April 2004)
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An important study but we need to recognize the possible limitations
- Robert Kubey
(6 April 2004)
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Ivory Tower
- Kenneth P. Sullivan, Ph.D.
(6 April 2004)
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Re: Causal or Casual ?
- Jon Steuernagle IV
(6 April 2004)
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Re: Causal or Casual ?
- Jan N. Widerman
(6 April 2004)
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Detrimental TV watching: Due to concurrent exposure to brominated flame retardants?
- Claudette R Bethune
(6 April 2004)
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If Psychologists Made These Kinds of Causal Claims, We'd Have to Turn Each Other In!
- Wallace E. Dixon, Jr.
(6 April 2004)
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Causal or Casual ?
- Paul K Brandon
(6 April 2004)
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Re: Ivory Tower and Casual or Causal
- Maria Markham Thompson
(8 April 2004)
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Correlation or cause?
- Guy Cumberbatch
(8 April 2004)
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High prices limit public discourse
- Rebecca J. Carsel
(10 April 2004)
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Full text without charge
- Charles S. Harris, PhD
(11 April 2004)
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A high score of inattentiveness is not ADHD
- Søren Dalsgaard
(13 April 2004)
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Food for Thought
- Paula S. Wojtek
(15 April 2004)
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Correlation not implying causation: worse than the authors realize
- Bruce Arnold
(15 April 2004)
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Re: If Psychologists Made These Kinds of Causal Claims, We'd Have to Turn Each Other In!
- Kelly A. O'Grady
(25 April 2004)
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Danger of multi-collinearity
- Barry Greenberg
(18 May 2004)
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Do toddlers really have the attention span to watch televison for hours each day?
- Robert D. Cunningham
(16 July 2004)
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Alternate design method
- Corbin VanDeWege
(16 December 2004)
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Another Thought
- Kristina E. Clevenger
(12 January 2005)
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Statistical problems and interpretation of probability
- John Sandberg
(16 March 2005)
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Causal or Casual ? |
2 April 2004 |
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Andrew gallagher, dr
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andrew.gallagher{at}hotmail.com Andrew gallagher
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Having lived with an ADHD child, one of the few things they will do
by themselves (so you can get on with domestic chores, see to other kids,
talk to friends etc) is watch TV. I don`t like it but you`ve got to get
through the day and stay sane. Maybe thats why these kids spend more time
in front of the TV - so their parents can cope. It doesnt mean that TV
gives them problems, maybe their problem gives them extra TV exposure.
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Fatal Design Flaw: Self-Selection |
6 April 2004 |
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Gordon E. Finley, Professor of Psychology Florida International University
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Re: Fatal Design Flaw: Self-Selection
finley{at}fiu.edu Gordon E. Finley
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Front-page media reports (The Miami Herald, 4/5/04) have failed to
catch the fatal design flaw of self-selection that requires clarification
(Finley, 1998). The present findings must be interpreted cautiously
because they are based on subject and/or caretaker self-selection and not
experimentation (where subjects are randomly assigned to conditions such
as amount of TV exposure). Specifically, rather than TV “causing” ADHD,
it is equally plausible that the present results were “caused” by: (a)
very young children with dispositions to ADHD self-selecting fast-moving
TV as a “self-soothing” or “attention-holding” mechanism; or (b)
caretakers self-selecting the context of TV for their ADHD children to
facilitate family coping.
Reference
Finley, G. E. (1998). On individual difference, choice, selection,
and complexity in adoption research. Adoption Quarterly, 1 (4), 83 – 91.
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An important study but we need to recognize the possible limitations |
6 April 2004 |
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Robert Kubey, Prof. of Journalism & Media Studies; developmental psychologist; Director, Center for Media St Rutgers University
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Re: An important study but we need to recognize the possible limitations
kubey{at}scils.rutgers.edu Robert Kubey
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I've read the article and am very impressed by this study and think
it is a very important contribution to the field.
I especially appreciate the authors' own excellent caveat, in which
they write:
"Third, we cannot draw causal inferences from these associations. It
could be that attentional problems lead to television viewing rather than
vice versa. . . .It is also possible that there are characteristics
associated with parents who allow their children to watch excessive
amounts of television that accounts for the relationship between
television viewing and attentional problems. For example, parents who were
distracted, neglectful, or otherwise preoccupied might have allowed their
children to watch excessive amounts of television in addition to having
created a household environment that promoted the development of
attentional problems."
The news media will doubtlessly report on this study as if there IS a
causal relationship even though the authors rightly warn against doing so
and they are to be admired for being candid about this in their write-up.
Partialling out SES and numerous other variables is always important
in such work, but unless the work was done with a
great deal many more questions to parents, it is nearly impossible to know
if there are important differences in parental style and approach to
television and other activities that might be going on here.
But this team has made a very important start and it's important that
the study be replicated and different variations of the study be
conducted, and in different nations and locales.
"Pediatrics" asks contributors if they have an interest in the area
and I do indeed as I've long suspected that shortened attention spans are
encouraged by a good deal of contemporary media. I commented on this in
my work on the "intolerance for unstructured time" (Kubey, 1986, Journal
of Communication), in my 1990 book with Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi,
"Television and the Quality of Life" (Erlbaum) and in our more recent
Scientific American article on so-called "Television Addiction" from Feb.
2002. And many others have as well.
Let me add, in my own interviews with leading creators of American
television, many of which date back to 1987 and up and through 2003, that
the great percentage of the over 100 people I have interviewed have
reported to me, when asked, that THEY believed that the attention span of
the American public was indeed growing shorter. Forty of these interviews
are reported in my book (2004), "Creating Television: Conversations with
the People Behind 50 Years of American Television" and I will be happy to
make some of relevant quotes available for those who might be interested.
Or I could post them on this site if people wish to see them. The Rutgers
News Service will be doing a release on this book and its findings
probably later this week, or next.
But here's the point: most everyone working in the media ardently
believes they must pander to a shortened attention span: producers and
reporters in print, radio and TV news, and in every other entertainment
medium. So, even if the media haven't caused any shortening of the
public's attention span, there is no question in my mind that media
producers create products and more rapidly intercut their materials in
order to hold on to people's waning attention and interest levels. And
this might have had an effect itself, even if there was no real effect to
begin with.
The development of advertising techniques that influenced the style
and intercutting ratios in music videos has been a matter of great
influence on the popular culture and subsequently on editing styles in
film and television and advertising, once again.
Byron Reeves and Annie Lang and their colleages at Stanford and at
Penn State, respectively, have demonstrated that rapid cuts can activate
the primitive, biologically and evolutionarily grounded "orienting
response" in people, and this is referred to in the important Jerome
Singer article cited in the current piece.
Let us not forget the Harvard study that showed that the average
length of soundbite for presidential candidates on national TV news in
1968 was about 45 seconds whereas it dwindled down by a factor of 5 to
only about 8-9 seconds, I believe as early as 1988. And it's stayed low
subsequently. CBS tried to lengthen their soundbites for presidential
candidates in 1992, I believe, letting the bites run at least 30 seconds
but they killed the policy within about a week's time. I believe this was
reported in the New York Times sometime in 1992 or perhaps it was 1996.
Moreover, a number of researchers over the years have made
observations or commented on the real possibility that children's
attentional and impulse control and ability to stay on task, and tolerate
frustration, might all be negatively affected by over-exposure to
television. Subsequently, though I don't follow it as closely, critics of
video games and computers have made similar claims.
I do not share in the propensity of all too many researchers to
demonize the media. There are wonderful things on television for people
of all ages, but everything in life, and especially for young developing
minds, needs to be done in moderation.
There may be positive effects, as well from rapidly edited media and
video and computer play as well. There is reason to believe, for example,
that recent increases in IQ scores around the world are partly
attributable to video and computer game play (see Patricia Greenfield and
others on this). To my knowledge, which is limited here, there has been
no better explaination offered for this secular trend. And frankly, I
think it possible that even the mind puzzles that kids run into on cereal
boxes, in school, and even in restaurants, has prepped them, more than
past generations, to do well with certain IQ type questions, especially in
spatial relations.
But one more intriguing idea that I have seen elsewhere. There was
speculative work done some years ago that suggested that the PARENTS of
kids with ADHD might view heavily themselves, both as a way to escape
their ADHD kid/s and/or that the children might try to act out more, and
be more kinetic, like the people on TV in order to gain the attention of
their parents who are so absorbed with watching TV. Here, the argument
was made that kids are trying to be like what the parents are attracted to
on the TV screen. A scary thought and a pretty wild one, but I thought
I'd add it as it IS in the literature at least in discussion.
Thus, looking at parental level of viewing is an important co-variate
to consider in this sort of work as well.
At bottom, this is a very important study and should shake up a lot
of researchers around the world to closely study the topic, and it should
also encourage increased funding by the U.S.P.H.S. in funding, once again,
basic research on the influence of media, especially in developing
children.
R. Kubey, Rutgers
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Kenneth P. Sullivan, Ph.D., Psychologist
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Ksuli{at}hiwaay.net Kenneth P. Sullivan, Ph.D.
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I do not like that this article, and many others in scientific
literature, are expensive to read. Scientific findings would serve the
world better if they could be read freely. Restricting information puts
the scientific community in the ivory tower. Oh well, maybe the rest of us
can watch this article get summarized on TV.
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Re: Causal or Casual ? |
6 April 2004 |
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Jon Steuernagle IV, Med Student
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ratphH1nk{at}hotmail.com Jon Steuernagle IV
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I would agree with the doctor in the previous post and would like to
point out
something that I did not see directly addressed in this study.
If there appears to be this correlation between X hours of television
watched
for this age group and an Y% increase in symptoms, that are categorized as
attention related at age 7, I would also like to know how the remaining 24
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hours of the childs day was spent. It would be interesting to see if
further
correlations can be drawn or perhaps, nullifying activities can be
identified.
For example: If a child spent 2 hours per day watching television but also
engaged in some period of direct interaction with caregivers, or focused
activities (such as reading, block activitites, drawing/painting etc..)
does this
affect the later prevalence of diagnosis of attention problems.
Cheers,
Jon
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Re: Causal or Casual ? |
6 April 2004 |
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Jan N. Widerman, Pediatrician
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jwiderman{at}comcast.net Jan N. Widerman
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WE know that children with ADHD can focus for long periods of time on
things that interest them. Thus, how many times do we hear from the
parents that their child cannot have ADHD because they play video games or
watch TV for hours. In fact, one theory by Thompson is that one of the
characteristics in ADHD is the ability to lose track of time when the
excitement of the activity is present. He writes about the days of being
hunters and farmers and states that the hunters have the ADHD qualities.
We also suspect that there are signs even in the newborn period that may
correlate with ADHD (colic?). Lastly, no mention has been made in regard
to the parents having ADHD. This article seems to neglect the know
genetic occurrence of this disorder.
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Detrimental TV watching: Due to concurrent exposure to brominated flame retardants? |
6 April 2004 |
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Claudette R Bethune, research scientist National institute of nutrition and seafood research
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Re: Detrimental TV watching: Due to concurrent exposure to brominated flame retardants?
claudette.bethune{at}nifes.no Claudette R Bethune
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Hello,
As a UW alumni from Pharmacuetics, I enjoyed reading your article!
While environmental pollutants and childrens health is a complex emerging
issue, one class of chemicals in, and emitted from, TV sets is known to
cause developmental disabilities.
I have been studing brominated flame retardants here in Norway, and
research seems to indicate exposure to these thyroid disrupting chemicals
can come directly from watching TVs and computers which contain these
compounds in the plastic components of these products. A group of flame
retardants, PBDEs, are almost identical in their chemical structure to PCB
which binds to the thyroid gland which regulates many functions such as
behaviour. Flame retardants typically make up from 5-30% of the final
product weight.
The brominated flame retardants are constantly released from TVs made
with them, both new and old sets, and typically the emitted chemicals
adhere to dust. Thus the route of flame retardant exposure in children
can be through ihalation, dermal,and ingestion of dust particles. Also,
viewing TV on a foam sofa increases exposure, as the foam contains flame
retardants (typically penta PBDEs).
Since TV viewing is now associated with specific chemical exposures,
it would be interesting to see a similar study which considers exposure to
flame retardants and resuting dioxin and furans which occur during TV
time.
Claudette R. Bethune, PhD
Nasjonalt institutt for ernærings- og sjømatforskning
National Institute of Nutrition and Seafood Research (NIFES)
P.O. Box 176 Sentrum, N-5804 Bergen, Norway
www.nifes.no
tlf. +47 55905129
fax+47 55905299
email cbe@nifes.no
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If Psychologists Made These Kinds of Causal Claims, We'd Have to Turn Each Other In! |
6 April 2004 |
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Wallace E. Dixon, Jr., Developmental Psychologist East Tennessee State University
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dixonw{at}mail.etsu.edu Wallace E. Dixon, Jr.
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I am amazed about what passes for scientific claims these days.
Not only did the American Academy of Pediatrics some years ago
get away with calling for the removal of all television viewing for all
children under age 2 with absolutely no evidence other than its
own opinion, now it seems to be advocating for making causal
attributions from correlational data.
I am not challenging the validity of the revealed correlation
between childhood attention-related disorders and television
viewing in infancy and toddlerhood. I am trusting the authors
conducted their analyses accurately. The problem is that the
authors ran wild in making causal implications about the direction
of effects with absolutely no scientific license to do so. If
psychologists did this, I would like to think their peer reviewers
would call them on it, and require them to reframe their
conclusions in more cautionary language long before publication
would ever be permitted. Apparently the same admonitions do not
take place among all medical researchers, nor among some of
their peer-reviewed journals.
Here's the deal. At least two alternative explanations can be made
to account for the relationship between TV-viewing and attention-
related disorders in childhood. First, it is possible, indeed I would
say even likely, that children with attention-span problems are
more likely to find television interesting than children without
attention-related problems. Children's television programs are
made exceptionally attention-grabbing by virtue of their fast-paced,
exciting, frequent-scene-changing, musical styles of presentation
they employ. Although this is appealing to all children, it's not
surprising that it's especially appealing to attention-disordered
children who seem to find the normal world especially boring. TV
may provide the most stimulating bang for the buck of any
environmental stimulus out there. Unlike attention-disordered
children, children without such disorders can find solace in lots of
stimuli besides TV; but for attention-disordered infants and
toddlers, this may be the best they can hope for.
The authors dismiss this possiblity because according to them,
most experts believe that attention-related disorders don't emerge
until later childhood. Unfortunately, the beliefs of experts have
nothing to do with reality, unless those beliefs are based on data.
To be sure, attention-related disorders are likely to be "discovered"
in childhood, as opposed to infancy, because it is during childhood
that children with attention-related disorders run smack-dab into
the highly structured school setting, which tends not to give
children with attention-related disorders much latitude. But the fact
that these disorders aren't reported frequently until school age, has
nothing to do with whether or not they are present before school
age. These disorders may be present from birth, we just don't
know! If a child has an attention-related disorder at birth, it strikes
me that she or he would likely to keep the disorder until well into
adulthood.
This leads to a second alternative interpretation of the data
reported in this article. That is that parents of infants who have
attention-related disorders may turn to TV as a last resort for
dealing with their potentially difficult children. The literature on
infant and toddler temperament is replete with data linking
temperamental difficulty to parenting practices. Children with
difficult temperaments tend to have weary, tired, hapless, and
frustrated parents. Is this a coincidence? Probably not. It makes
sense that children with difficult temperaments would produce
parents who develop parenting tactics to deal with their children's
difficult temperaments, and TV-viewing might be one of the most
successful parenting tactics employed. In this case, TV-viewing
wouldn't be responsible for attention-related disorders. Quite the
contrary, attention-related disorders would be responsible for
parenting tactics that result in TV-viewing. But alas, this possibility
is given short-shrift by the authors in this article. The fact is that
infants and todders with difficult temperaments also tend to have
short attention-spans, so parents who can find a means to
successfully maintain the attention of their temperamentally difficult
infants and toddlers may have also found a means to attenuate
their infants' and toddlers' temperamental difficulty.
(Ironically, if I were trying to publish this kind of research in
Pediatrics, I might so far as to claim that the difficult temperament
caused the parents to become weary, tired, hapless, and
frustrated. But as a psychologist, I hold strongly to the old adage
"correlation does not imply causation." So I am left with the mere
suggestion that it might be so.)
The bottom line is that the recieved and, it seems to me, extremely
destructive result of this article may be that the general public will
declare that when children have ADHD, it is the fault of their
parents who let them watch too much TV. If ADHD gets blamed on
parents, who knows what's next; maybe health insurance rates for
treating ADHD will be determined partially as a function of how
many TVs are in the home. Meanwhile, research funding for the
real cause of ADHD may become reduced by communities who
fail to understand the difference between correlation and
causation, and attempts to find a cure for ADHD may become
further removed from the gaping arms of waiting, suffering
children.
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Causal or Casual ? |
6 April 2004 |
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Paul K Brandon, Professor Psychololgy Dept, Minnesota State University, Mankato
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There are many possible contaminating variables here
besides the ones that Gallagher mentions.
The data are based on retrospective self reports by the
parents of the children whose behavior is in question.
I see no indication of any systematic validation of the
accuracy of these reports.
It is quite possible that parents who are more sensitive
to or concerned about their children's behavior are
more likely to both report behavioral abnormalities and
give higher estimates ot the time those children spend
watching TV.
To conclude, the only way to imply causation to any
observed relationship between the reported time spent
watching television and reported frequency of problem
behaviors would be to randomly assign subjects to TV
and NO TV groups, have them log defined behaviors
and TV time in real time, and have external observers
occasionally make reliability checks on their recording.
Failing that, all we have is a vague suggestion that
some sort of undefined relationship exists.
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Re: Ivory Tower and Casual or Causal |
8 April 2004 |
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Maria Markham Thompson, MUP, CPA, CFA parent
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It seems particularly inappropriate to limit access to information
that has been widely reported and misinterpreted in the general media. The
readily available abstract states a recommendation for limiting television
viewing in early childhood that is not well supported by the study.
Parents who are given such admonishment should have equal access to the
study in order to assess the validity of the standard against which their
behavior and the choices they make for their children will be measured.
A particularly glaring confusion between causality and correlation in
the paper is allowing the authors to suggest that "parents who were
distracted, neglectful, or otherwise preoccupied might have allowed their
children to watch excessive amounts of television in addition to having
created a household environment that promoted the development of
attentional disorders." The opposite possibility is not considered that
the child was born with biochemical or structural brain differences that
were stressors for the parents who in turn responded with television as a
form of respite care in order to meet their personal and familial
obligations.
Since the researchers did not actually study children diagnosed with
ADHD, it seems somewhat inappropriate for the conclusion to be that they
have "added inattention to the previously studied deleterious consequences
of excessive television viewing, including violent behavior and obesity."
I believe the differences in research methodology between this study and
the ones cited are too great to so easily link them.
My anecdotal observations of several homes with ADHD children are
that at some point parents realize that they cannot provide the high
levels of stimuli for the number of hours that our children require.
Realities such as gainful employment, household maintenance, and need for
sleep become competing imperatives. Lacking unlimited resources to hire
teams of people to step into the breach, we often use video-based stimuli
(televised, VHS and DVD) as compromises in getting time to do what we must
and a few moments of personal solace to maintain our sanity. More
research on video-based products that meet the stimulus needs of ADHD
children in the early childhood would provide far more benefit to our
children and their families.
Maria Markham Thompson, CPA, CFA
Parent of an ADHD daughter, age 12
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Correlation or cause? |
8 April 2004 |
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Guy Cumberbatch, Psychologist CRG, Aston Science Park, UK
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The amount of television that children watch is well predicted from
the viewing behavior of their parents. Moreover, there has been growing
support for the idea that children with ADHD tend to have parents with
ADHD. Thus it would be risky to assume that the television habits of
infants and toddlers is causally related to ADHD rather than merely a
correlate. Readers may have noted that under results the figure of 3.6
hours per week watched by 3 year olds should read 3.6 hours per day.
I am an independent researcher working for both broadcasters and
regulators in the UK and elswhere.
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High prices limit public discourse |
10 April 2004 |
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Rebecca J. Carsel, M.S.
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bcarsel{at}charter.net Rebecca J. Carsel
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I am a member of the public and parent of a three-year-old. After
hearing this article widely reported in the news media, I wanted to read
it myself to see how the authors address the question of correlation
versus causation. I was dismayed to see that it would cost $12 just to
read the article.
The high cost of this article prevents people from verifying the
accuracy of media reports. Surely Pediatrics could make available a
widely reported article such as this for free or at a reduced price, at
least for a period of time. At $12 a read, Pediatrics is severely
limiting public discourse about important scientific issues.
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Full text without charge |
11 April 2004 |
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Charles S. Harris, PhD, psychologist webmaster, The Nurture Assumption website, http://xchar.home.att.net/tna/
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xchar{at}att.net Charles S. Harris, PhD
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The complete text of this article is available without charge,
in Adobe PDF format, courtesy of the American Academy of Pediatrics:
http://www.aap.org/advocacy/releases/tvapril.pdf
It is also available in HTML format, courtesy of Google:
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:TuBCS4w7kGkJ:www.aap.org/advocacy/releases/tvapril.pdf
In the published paper, the authors quite properly note, third in
the list of limitations of their study:
"Third, we cannot draw causal inferences from these associations. It
could be that attentional problems lead to television viewing rather
than vice versa. However, to mitigate this limitation, we exploited
the longitudinality of the data set and focused on television viewing
at 1 and 3 years of age,well before the age at which most experts
believe that ADHD symptoms are manifest.32,39 It is also possible
that there are characteristics associated with parents who allow
their children to watch excessive amounts of television that accounts
for the relationship between television viewing and attentional
problems. For example, parents who were distracted, neglectful, or
otherwise preoccupied might have allowed their children to watch
excessive amounts of television in addition to having created a
household environment that promoted the development of attentional
problems."
The authors' caveat that causual inferences cannot be drawn from
their study, however, did not deter them from drawing causal
inferences:
"Despite these limitations, our results have some important
implications if replicated in future studies. First, we added
inattention to the previously studied *deleterious consequences*
of excessive television viewing, including violent behavior and
obesity.41-43 Second, our findings suggest that *preventive action*
can be taken with respect to attentional problems in children.
Limiting young children's exposure to television as a medium during
formative years of brain development consistent with the American
Academy of Pediatrics' recommendations may reduce children's
subsequent risk of developing ADHD." (emphasis added)
Charles S. Harris, PhD
Psychologist
Webmaster, The Nurture Assumption website
http://xchar.home.att.net/tna/
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A high score of inattentiveness is not ADHD |
13 April 2004 |
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Søren Dalsgaard, MD, PhD Psychiatric Hospital for Children and Adolescents, University of Aarhus, Denmark
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sda{at}buh.aaa.dk Søren Dalsgaard
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The Pediatric paper is unfortunately currently a big story in Danish
news media.
Having worked with children with ADHD for the last 6 years I agree
with many other comments here on the fact that children with ADHD often
want to watch television.
One other bias in the study is the lack of assessment of parental
symptoms of ADHD.
In addition, a high score on a CBCL-subscale is not diagnostic for
ADHD, which the authors themselves also mention. Many children with
attentive problems may have a high score on such a scale, including
children with ODD/CD or children with an attachment disorder.
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Food for Thought |
15 April 2004 |
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Paula S. Wojtek, adult educator interested party
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pwojtek{at}howardcollege.edu Paula S. Wojtek
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I read with interest the above mentioned article and am concerned
with the growing number of students with ADD/ADHD.
It seemes to me that very young children who ride in cars extended
times each day are subject to the same types of rapid movement, changing
scenery, distractions, etc. that they are exposed to with television
viewing. It might be interesting to include in further studies the time
spent in car seats, also.
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Correlation not implying causation: worse than the authors realize |
15 April 2004 |
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Bruce Arnold, Economist
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brucea{at}cbo.gov Bruce Arnold
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It may seem impertinent for an economist to comment on a pediatric
research article. However, I received considerable training in
multivariate statistical analysis when I obtained my Ph.D., and I have
read a considerable amount of advanced material about ADHD because of the
fact that my son has been diagnosed with it. I think that the problem of
correlation not implying causation that the authors mention may be much
more serious than they realize, and that their statistical results may be
completely--or almost completely--explained by the substantial genetic
component to the causation of ADHD without any resort whatsoever to
telvision viewing causing attention problems.
Before explaining further, I should say that I had some difficulty
interpreting the table of regression results in the paper because in my
own field of economics people usually report regression coefficients--not
odds ratios--and I was not certain what odds ratios were. If I have
puzzled them out correctly, the odds ratio for a given explanatory
variable is the multiplicative factor by which a unit increase in that
variable affects p/(1-p), where p is the probability of having attention
problems. In that case, an odds ratio greater than one means that the
explanatory variable is associated with greater attention problems, and a
ratio less than one means it is associated with lesser attention problems.
Assuming this to be correct, then it appears to me that many of the
explanatory variables are serving as proxies for maternal ADHD, which are
correlated with attention problems in the child for genetic reason. Thus,
the odds ratio for maternal self esteem for age "1" children is 1.36,
meaning that low levels of maternal self esteem are associated with a
higher probability of attention problems in a child. However, if the
mother has ADHD, she likely is more of a failure in life than her equally
intelligent friends and family and therefore is more likely than others to
have low self esteem. Further, because of the genetic connection, her
children are more likely than others to have ADHD. These two facts by
themselves could explain the odds ratio, and I cannot think of any other
likely explantion of why maternal self-esteem would be stongly associated
with attention problems in her children.
Similarly for maternal depression, for which the reported odds ratio
for age "1" is 1.03. For the same reason that a mother with ADHD would be
more likely than others to suffer from low self esteem, I think she would
also be more likely to suffer from depression as measured by the variable
used in this paper. This plus the genetic transmission of ADHD to the
child could explain the reported odds ratio.
Similarly for maternal education. The paper reports an odds ratio of
0.91, meaning higher maternal education is associated with lower
likelihood of attention problems in the child. If the mother has ADHD,
she likely found school to be difficult and not to her taste, so she
probably did not get as much education as other people: that is, she was
more likely to drop out of high school, or if she finished high school,
less likely to go to college and finish a degree, and so on. This plus
the genetic transmission of ADHD would explain the reported odds ratio.
Similarly for the emotional-support and cognitive-stimulation scores.
The reported odds ratios are 0.82 and 0.84, meaning that high emotional
support and cognitive stimulation are associated with lower likelihood of
attention problems in the child. My guess is that maternal ADHD probably
inccreases the likelihood of low emotional support and cognitive
stimulation of the child. That plus the genetic transmission of ADHD
would explain the reported odds ratios.
Finally, and most importantly, is television hours watched per day.
The reported odds ratio is 1.09, indicating that increased time watching
television by the child at age "1" is associated with increased likelihood
of ADHD at age 7. I would guess that a mother with ADHD would be more
likely to be, in the words of the authors, "distracted, neglectful, or
otherwise preoccupied" and therefore that it would be more likely that
there children would watch a lot of television. This plus the genetic
transmission of ADHD would explain the reported odds ratio. Note that the
fact that the television viewing measure in the paper was at ages "1" and
"3"--before ADHD symptoms are known to become manifest--is irrelevant to
this explanation.
To sum up, the regression results reported in this paper appear to me
to show not that increased television viewing causes attention problems
but that a large number of proxies for maternal ADHD are associated with
attention problems in children. This is exactly what we would expect from
the genetic transmission of ADHD, which has already been know for some
time.
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Re: If Psychologists Made These Kinds of Causal Claims, We'd Have to Turn Each Other In! |
25 April 2004 |
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Kelly A. O'Grady, RN Lead Environmental Awareness and Detection (L.E.A.D.)
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lead{at}nrtco.net Kelly A. O'Grady
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If Psychologists Made These Kinds of Causal Claims, We'd Have to Turn
Each Other In!
Psychologists often blame a person’s ability to succeed or fail on
upbringing, life experiences or basic personality and now we have a new
claim: TV watching. Most researchers would agree that such factors do
influence how children function, however researchers now know that
character traits are the product of complex neurological processes more
heavily dependent upon the balance of neurotransmitter chemicals such as
dopamine than on social factors - or pseudo environmental factors such as
TV watching.
Personality traits once thought a product of a child’s upbringing or
social background are now found to be influenced by environmental factors
in a very literal sense. For example, procrastination, which used to be
considered a character trait, will soon be included as one of the DSM V
criteria for Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD). FOr some time, ADD has been
linked with early exposure to the poison lead.
Lead, an undisputed neurotoxin, may affect numerous cell functions,
including the release of neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin.
Just how much lead it takes to make this happen, and how one should
measure this occurrence seems to be the issue at hand.
Deborah Rice, a former Health Canada research scientist, has
conducted many animal studies in order to gauge the neurotoxic impact of
agents such as lead, mercury and PCBs on learning and behavioural
performance. From her work she discovered:
Monkeys treated with lead and PCBs show two "hallmark" traits:
1. the inability to learn from the consequences of previous behaviour
and;
2. an inability to organize behaviour in a temporal sequence.
There are similarities in behaviour between children diagnosed with
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and her lead and PCB dosed
monkeys. ADHD in children is characterized by:
• An inability to organize behaviour in a timely manner, or to plan
and execute events in a timely fashion;
• An inability to persist in the face of distracting or competing
stimuli;
• An inability to appropriately respond to consequence of past
behaviour (learn from past mistakes)
• A decreased ability to hold information "online" in order to plan
for present or future behaviour;
• Impulsiveness.(1)
In Rice's studies, laboratory monkeys were given a test where they
had to choose between two shapes, for example a cross over a square. Once
they mastered this trial, the examiner then reversed the requirement so
that the monkeys, in order to get a correct answer, had to change their
response, choosing a square over a cross. Monkeys treated with lead, (with
fairly low blood lead levels of 20 µg/dL) or monkeys dosed with low levels
of PCBs had difficulty with this test. They could not seem to make the
necessary switch; they would persist with their old response. Even monkeys
with just 10 µg of lead/dL in their blood (our current level of concern in
humans) had more difficulty than the untreated group. They too made more
errors, and persevered in making the wrong response for longer periods;
sometimes dozens of times.
Intriguingly children diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity
Disorder are given a similar test called "The Wisconsin Card Sort Test."
In this test, children must switch their response from looking at the
pattern in cards to looking at the number, and then switch back again.
Children are expected to make this response without any instructions from
the examiner. Examiners have found that children with ADHD have difficulty
with this test.
Is it possible then, that children diagnosed with ADHD are really
misdiagnosed lead or PCB toxic children? Like any good scientist, Rice is
cautious in making the comparison. She says, "This is not to suggest that
ADHD is caused exclusively by neurotoxic agents in the environment.
Genetic and other [social] environmental factors play major roles in the
etiology of the disability."(1) But she adds, "it seems reasonable to
postulate that environmental neurotoxicants contribute to the prevalence
of ADHD currently being identified."(1)
Kelly O'Grady RN
Lead Environmental Awareness and Detection L.E.A.D.
Web: www.nrtco.net/~lead
219 Welland St.,
Pembroke, ON CANADA
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Tel: 613-735-0717
Fax: 613-732-2859
Lead Environmental Awareness and Detection (l.e.a.d.) is a non-profit
organization dedicated to identifying and preventing pediatric
neurotoxicity in Canada. We promote the development of optimal social and
physical environmental conditions for healthy productive children by
recognizing the need for targeted early childhood blood lead screening of
at-risk populations, and the need for raising public and professional
awareness of this issue.
Reference
1. Rice, D.C. Parallels between Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
and behavioural deficits produced by neurotoxin exposure to monkeys.
Environmental Health Perspectives 2000;108(Suppl 3):405-408.
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Danger of multi-collinearity |
18 May 2004 |
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Barry Greenberg, Professor Florida International University
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The article fails to provide information relating to the correlations
among the set of independent variables. Absent information, it is
impossible to determine whether what appears to be due to "television
hours watched per day" is really due to "maternal self-esteem". If multi-
collinearity exists, we are left in the dark, with no justification for
keeping the television set off. As many prior comments have indicated,
there is also a great deal of theoretical support for "maternal self-
esteem" .
Interpretations of the provided logistic coefficients (odds ratios)
for "television hours watched per day" indicate that for every additional
hour of television viewing per day, there is an increase in the likelihood
of ADHD by anywhere from 3 to 15 percent (based on supplied confidence
intervals). Given the manner in which the outcome variable was defined
and the many other shortcomings in correlational research as identified by
previous comments, this "increase in likelihood" hardly seems to justify
keeping my granddaughter away from Elmo and Barney.
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Do toddlers really have the attention span to watch televison for hours each day? |
16 July 2004 |
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Robert D. Cunningham, Neurodevelopmental Pediatrician
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One problem with this study that stretched my credibility past the
breaking point arose from the reliance on parental report of how much
televison toddlers watch each day, without any ability to verify the
parents' observations.
According to parental report, 1 year olds watch an average of 2.2
hours of televison per day, while 3 year olds watch 3.6 hours per day. I
would offer that the average toddler has the attention span to watch
television for only minutes at a time before moving onto a different
activity. Most of the material presented on television is so far above
the cognitive abilitilies of toddlers that there is little reason for
toddlers to pay attention to the program. (Toddlers frequently prefer
commercials to actual program material.)
Toddlers watching television for 2 to 3 hours per day? If this were
actually occurring, it would strike me as a group of toddlers with above-
average attention spans. But, really, the observation is just too
incredible for me to believe.
I suspect that what was actually being reported by the parents was
how much time the toddler spent in a room, with a parent or sibling, or
perhaps alone, with a television on, which is not the same as claiming
that a toddler spent 2 or 3 hours each day watching television.
This design flaw so terribly undercuts the study that no real
conclusions can be made, just tenuous hypotheses.
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Alternate design method |
16 December 2004 |
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Corbin VanDeWege, Medical Student Indiana University School of Medicine
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Perhaps a study using children whose parents voluntarily abstain from
exposing their children to television/video media would provide a stronger
support for etiology.
An interesting subset would be families with a strong family history
of ADHD.
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Another Thought |
12 January 2005 |
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Kristina E. Clevenger, stay-at-home mother none
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I was going to share my experience with my three year old son. I
quit my job nine months ago to be a stay-at-home mother. At the time I
was seven months pregnant and each day passed my son seemed to demand more
and more attention...play with me, hold me, read to me. Before the baby
was born I would give in to his demands or I would take him places like
story time, Burger King have other children come and play. After the baby
was born I could not run all over the place so again I tried to keep up
with his demands...nothing worked. On top of that my infant would only
nap thirty minutes to forty-five minutes at a time...except when his older
brother was gone (he was apparently sensing my stress). So eventually I
put him in front of the TV anywhere from one to three hours per day. It
gave me a little bit of sanity but only for the time he was actually
watching a show. Then when I would turn it off things would be worse. I
noticed that when I would read a book to him he lost interest after about
fifteen minutes. At two he would have listened for forty-five minutes and
entertain himself for longer periods of time. At the beginning of
December I was given a book that recommended no television for pre-school
children. Since then we have almost cut it off entirely. With that and
the use of a kitchen timer, we have made significant progress. I now
think that all of his demanding behavior has caused by jealousy and that
me putting him in front of the television not only made him dependent on
something else to entertain him but actually did shorten his attention
span immensely. Only time will tell if we can undo the damage. Until
then our TV will be off. One other thought...If the APA recommends no TV
watching for children under two years of age (and some studies before age
five) because of a possible link, why on earth are they not tellings these
things and letting us make the decision!!!
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Statistical problems and interpretation of probability |
16 March 2005 |
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John Sandberg, Asst. Prof Department of Sociology McGill University
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Hi; This is so long from the press attention to this article I wonder
if anyone will ever read it, but there are at least two potentially
serious flaws in the interpretation of the 'significant' coefficients
related to TV watching in this piece.
First, a 'significant' odds ratio tells us nothing about the change
in probability of classification as potentially adhd associated w/tv
watching. In this study, the big finding is an odds ratio of 1.09 (table
2) for tv hours per day. What does this mean? Well, you have to have the
full regression table which is not in the article to make an exact
measurement. I asked the PA for this after the article came out, but never
got it. I can't blame him as the press and attention must have been
horrific.
However if we start w/the average tv viewing times and adhd
prevalence given in the article to develop a 'baseline' probability and
then use the logit results from table two to generate predicted
probabilities for tv watching (which is a reasonable thing to do if the
sample used in the paper is representative), the results are striking.
What difference in the probability of being classified as adhd under the
authors criteria associated with the difference between 0 and 8 hours of
tv wathcing a day? .07. That's not a typo. The 95% upper bound on the
estimate is only .126, the lower bound .022. THis is not substantively
significant.
Where is there a big difference in the predicted probability under
this model? Out between 10 (where the discrete change in probability from
0 hours as calculated is .18) and 16 hours (where the discrete change in
probability from 0 hours as calculated is .27)of TV/day. The question then
is what 1 1/2 year olds watch, on average, 10-17 hours of television a
day? The answer is almost none. Take a look at the distribution of TV
hours given here in figure 1. It's very postively skewed. The analytic
sample size is 1278. How many cases are above 10 hours/day are there? My
very strong hunch is the entire result here is being driven by a few
outliers at the end of the spectrum. Remember this is a 'stylistic'
measure of time spent watching TV. Would you be more likely to think the
few people who say their kids watch over 10 hours of tv have given
accurate answers, or that somehow this is attributable to measurement
error (misunderstanding the question, pulling the IW's leg, some kind of
coding error)or not. This is a serious question if in fact these results
that have gotten a lot of popular attention are driven by the outliers.
Second, interpreting the significance from Wald tests of a maximum
likelihood estimator (which is done here as TV hours is judged
significant) though not necessarily invalid is much less powerfull than a
likelihood ratio test vs. the constrained model leaving out TV hours.
Though the result of the wald test is highly significant (.0014). It would
be more appropriate here to present the LR test. There might be a
different result.
That's it for anyone still reading this thread!
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